I Hate Superman eCould be punished along male couples or female couples I didn tnjoy this book as much as I hoped Lacking an individual or a series of individual stories to follow took much of the joy out of the readers The individuals whom did My Bookhouse (My Book House, emerge for the prose made me despair of humanity having any hope for the future willing vessels of hatred such as Bernadino of Siena and Savonarola At the same time I admire the author for learning from these vessels uncovering kernels of truth from their rants and using them to conduct a study of Florence as a whole This is anxcellent study War, Peace, and the Viet Cong even if it neglected the story aspects of history which I prefer For that this book gets four stars Very interesting I believe this may be the most important book yet written on human sexuality During the generation or so in which historians have been openly discussing variations in sexual behaviour it has often been shown that modern ways of thinking about sexuality are little than culturally induced assumptions and fundamentally different to those made by most historical societies The availablevidence had not however uite amounted to proof until Rocke put it well beyond reasonable dispute with this monumental study of 15th century Florence uniue in what her records are detailed Secrets of a Great Resume enough tostablishTo simplify including ignoring To Die For exceptional individuals who have alwaysxisted only starting around 1700 in northern Europe and only spreading to most of the world in the 20th century did society adopt its present idea of a heterosexual majority opposed to a homosexual minority mostly comprised of men whose behaviour challenged traditional gender roles Contrarily under the old system of thinking which had prevailed since ancient times it was assumed that men in general were attracted to both women and boys but not to other men This assumption survived mediaeval Christendom despite the terrible conflict it implied with Christian condemnation of sodomy In Celestial Teachings even sharper contrast to modern thinking traditional society was far indulgent of boys taking the passive role than of men doing so the transitional nature of boyhood avoiding the threat to gender role playing thatveryone supported The growing understanding of this profound change has been sometimes bitterly contested by so called Belly Up (FunJungle) essentialists who refuse to believe people brought up with fundamentally different cultural beliefs could have felt differently to them sexuallyither because they lack the imagination to Viet Cong escape the parochialism of our own notions or because whether straight or gay they feel threatened by the implications for the alleged immutability since birth of their own orientation I find their resistance depressing as I think knowing our sexual culture and individual tastes could have been constructed differently should be liberating andnrichening I am therefore glad that Rocke has cleared up the matter for anyone interested and open minded Sex Fitness Stroke Skills Americana enough to peruse the mountain ofvidence here presentedI shall not attempt than a very brief summary of what Rocke has Wofford College, South Carolina established about homosexuality in Florence or how Florence was uniue in having between 1432 and 1502 an Office of the Night with the sole purpose of controllingndemic sodomy Its Seduced by the CEO extraordinarily thorough records as well as those of the other Florentine courts with jurisdiction havenabled him to draw some irrefutable conclusions about Florentine men in general Amazingly by age forty at least two of Cucked in Cancun (Queen of Spades Book 3) every three men had been incriminated in sodomy at least once backing up opinions of the time that nearly no one hasn t committed such mischief Rocke isxtraordinarily well read in the literature of the time which he uses brilliantly both to illustrate humanly the court records and to Kylmä jälki enliven his textMost of the most salient characteristics of Florentine sodomy will be familiar to students of ancient Greece though not of course the statisticalvidence There was only a single male sexual culture with a prominent homoerotic character In Florence and probably The Last Time We Saw Marion elsewhere as well sodomy between males assumed a hierarchical form that would now be called pederasty Normally men over the age ofighteen took the so called active role in sex with a passive teenage adolescent Relations in which roles were To Have or to Be? The Nature of the Psyche exchanged or reversed were rare and occurred almost solely between adolescents while sex between mature men was with very fewxceptions unknown Sodomising boys was never felt to be incompatible with heterosexual pursuits though the numbers continuing to be involved with them after marriage were much smaller As in classical Athens men married late at thirty which contributed to the prevalence of pederasty Some striking differences from ancient Greece were
"That In Florence Pederasty Flourished "in Florence pederasty flourished fierce official hostility both men and boys were highly promiscuous and men sometimes fellated their boysRocke s findings provoke one Historia de arrabal extremely important uestion neither he nor anyonelse I have heard of has Prisoner (The Contractors, ever attempted to answer whatffect does ubiuitously practised pederasty have on a society The ancient Greeks believed Georgette Heyers Regency World erotic bonds between men and boys were vitally important in transmitting skills and virtues from one to the other and historians such as W A Percy have backed them up by underlining the correlation in time between the Greek miracle and the institutionalisation of pederasty there 15th century Italy in general was considered the mother of sodomy and Florence in particular was in Savonarola s words defamed throughout all of Italy for it One might well sayxactly the same about their respective reputations at the forefront of the The Meaning of Creation extraordinary cultural flowering known as the Renaissance a flowering that included the revival of the naked male youth as a worthy subject of art by artists themselves often well known for their love affairs with boys Is this just an amazing coincidence I suggest it is a stunning indictment of the intellectual cowardice of our times that decades after abundantvidence has been furnished that at least the two most culturally renowned societies in European history were My Brothers Keeper eually renowned for a now forbidden form of love no general study of this uestion has been attemptedSome may find this a book to refer to or dip into for fascinating insights and riveting anecdotes rather than to read from cover to cover Though Rocke s style is lucid andlegant he never strays far La decisión de Stinger enough from balancedxamination of the statistical Celebrity Pass evidence to become less than heavy reading I can only guess it is this that has held Forbidden Friendships back from the far widespread acclaim it richly deserves I strongly urge anyone to read it who has the slightest interest inither how Renaissance Italians thought or its broader sexual implications for humanityEdmund Marlowe author of Alexander s Choice a modern British tale of Florentine style a masculino wwwdp1481222112. An xtension of youthful and masculine lust and desire As Niccolo Machiavelli uipped about a handsome man When young he lured husbands away from their wives and now he lures wives away from their husbands Florentines generally accepted sodomy as a common misdemeanor to be punished with a fine rather than as a *deadly sin and a transgression against nature There was no word in the otherwise rich Florentine sexual lexicon for nor *sin and a transgression against nature There was no word in the otherwise rich Florentine sexual lexicon for homosexual there a distinctive and well developed homosexual subculture Rather sexual acts between men and boys were an integral feature of the dominant cultureRocke roots this sexual activity in the broader context of Renaissance Florence with its social networks of families juvenile gangs neighbors patronage workshops and confraternities and its busy political life from the arly years of the Republic through the period of Lorenzo de' Medici Savonarola and the beginning of Medici princely rule His richly detailed book paints a fascinating picture of a vibrant time and place and calls into uestion our modern conceptions of gender and sexual identity.
READ Ç PDF, Star Wars Myths Fables eBook or KindlePUB ´ Michael RockeI borrowed this book from my university library and I Bill Graham Presents enjoyed it Itxplores the practice of sodomy in Renaissance Florence and how it was policed Apparently Florence had such a reputation for sodomy that a special office called the Office of the Night was created to police itRocke also places sodmomy in the context of socialization and male identity All in all very insightful and Calculus for Biology and Medicine: United States Edition engagingspecially for an academic text This was an absolutely amazing book on renaissance Florence This book gave me something a lot of history books don t something new to learn and think about I admit that I love history but this book definitely gave me something I find that a lot of history books get regurgitated in a way that makes non fiction history books somewhat dull to read for most I love how the author structured the book I love how he approached the topic and how he analysed facts in certain ways I appreciate that he gave an opinion without being too biased He approached the topic relying heavily on data rather than sources but he used the sources to add depth to the facts Overall this book changed the way I look at Florence in a renaissance setting completely If someone is looking at Ah ! My Goddess - Tome 23 either history gender studies Italian studies orven just investigating the identities that The Gondola Maker emerged in Italy I would greatly suggest this book I think this is one of the few books that really discusses this topic in depth and it is amazing and uniue because of it I d recommend this book in a heartbeat The Florentine Office of the Night set up to police sodomy has left anxtraordinarily rich trove of material If you were caught in a compromising position in Florence or if you thought you might be you could guarantee immunity from prosecution forgiveness by confessing and naming your partners A freuent result was that if a youth announced he had had sex with a man he then named this could spark an avalanche of other men hastening to give themselves immunity by confessing that they had also had sex with the same youth The punishments for those convicted were very varied Some men were burnt to death or publicly mutilated but this was generally only in rare cases such as multiple offences including rape Many were absolved or fined Diwali even for repeat offences with multiple partnersThe sheer scale of the practice is remarkable From the Night Office statistics and population studies Rockestimates that at one time towards the Drawing with Your Four- to Eleven-Year-Old end of the 15th century approximately two thirds of the male population of Florence were implicated in sodomy Essentiallyveryone who was male was buggering or being buggered by Oklahoma Outbreak (American Chillers, everyonelseThis all raises fascinating and perhaps uncomfortable uestions for anyone who gives thought to the subject of human sexuality today Contemporary Western culture accepts male homosexuality broadly speaking only if it copies the pattern of traditional heterosexual norms ie if you have a monogamous married relationship with another adult of a similar age and status This is totally foreign to the Florentine xperience indeed this contemporary Western pattern would have been regarded with particular horror and revulsion as being utterly contrary to nature Florentine men liked to have sex with teenage boys and teenage boys liked to have sex with Florentine men A lot And it was generally accepted that almost all men were sexually attracted to teenage boys and that almost all teenage boys were happy to play the submissive role with men The typical pattern of sexual behaviour for a Florentine male seems to have been this starting some time soon after puberty he began seeking out consensual sexual relations with older men in which he played the passive role his sexual activity peaking at around the age of fifteen Once he was over 18 he ceased to play the passive role and started looking for younger males himself he continued to play the active role in sexual relations with younger males until he reached the age of around thirty whereupon he got married and confined his sexual interests to his wife confined his sexual interests to his wife course there were many xceptions to this pattern but it seems to have been a remarkably prevalent one Given how utterly different it is to contemporary understandings of sexuality it raises a mass of intriguing uestions Rocke deals with some of these uestions such as how the whole understanding of sex between males was understood as part of the wider pattern of relationships social political commercial cultural within the Florentine city state But other uestions are left unanswered such as why are we so different now It s as if contemporary discourse about human sexuality has given us a particular set of assumptions and then we read this book and realise that perhaps almost all of those assumptions are profoundly inadeuate for making sense of the fascinating world that Rocke reveals Fascinating study of male male love in Renaissance Florence It reminds me that our current construction of homosexuality is not without historical alternatives In fifteenth century Florence a judicial agency known as The Office of the Night left written records that allow this author Michael Rocke to put together a uniuely detailed picture of homosexual relations in that medieval city But what do we learn I m of two minds about the result The author s presentation is weakest where he thinks it s strong and strongest in its secondary documentation Rocke s idea is to take the records of thousands of reports and prosecutions for sodomy between 1432 and 1502 and put together a picture of same sex activity sufficient to contrast with our modern ideas of homosexuality He Super Zombie Juice Mega Bomb eventually does achieve his goal but not by crunching numbers The author thinks he s doing a scientific study of the records but he s only playing with percentages This researcher is fascinated with his subject but he s too close to it to attain the objectivity needed to present this to the public His great weakness is his profound understanding of Italian culture during that period which leads to a failure tostablish the necessary premises A major factor affecting sexual relations between older and younger males in that period was the marriage age men of any standing didn t normally get married until their thirties Although it comes up over and over the writer never tries to xplain why men married so late Nor does he give us any background on the relations between unmarried males and females that would help us understand why young adults seemed to prefer male teenagers to women Nor does he seem to know anything about the mass of the population the poor the servants and slaves the dispossessed rural laborers and so on He assumes his readers already have *Some Knowledge Of Medieval Florence For These Reasons Along With *knowledge of medieval Florence For these reasons along with weak use of statistics he cannot show how sodomy as it was called fit in with the larger society This writer has a bad habit too of. The men of Renaissance Florence were so renowned for sodomy that Florenzer in German meant sodomite Indeed in the late fifteenth century as many as one in two Florentine men had come to the attention of the authorities for sodomy by the time they were thirty In the seventy years from 1432 to 1502 some 17000 men in a city of only 40000 were investigated for sodomy; 3000 were convicted and thousands confessed to gain amnesty Michael Rocke vividly depicts this vibrant sexual culture in a world where these same sex acts were not the deviant transgressions of a small minority but an integral part of a normal masculine identityIn 1432 The Office of the Night was created specifically to police sodomy in Florence Seventy years of denunciations interrogations and sentencings left an xtraordinarily detailed record which Rocke uses to its fullest in this richly documented portrait He describes a wide range of sexual xperiences between males ranging from boys such as fourteen year old Morello di Taddeo who prostituted himself to fifty seven men to the notorious Jacopo di Andrea a young. .
Ualifying very conclusion he does reach to the point that it means nothing and contradicting himself as he continues crunching the numbers He admits that judicial records alone cannot give us a good picture of same sex relations but misses the chance to provide Modoc enough background to give his conclusions greater weightNevertheless the book becomes a worthwhile read once the author gets the number crunching out of his system The one thing he does do to goodffect is supplement the court records with other documentation such as personal letters uotes from sermons and political The Testaments (The Handmaids Tale, edicts material that opens a window on how people at the time thought about sodomy This reinforces some of what the court records indicateThe confusion brought out in the book isn tntirely the author s fault but rather our own To compare the state of same sex relations then and now takes Historias de cronopios y de famas extraordinary care not just because people in medieval Florence had confused notions of what homosexual attraction amounted to but also because we ourselves do A big part of this discussion concerns apparently straight men who under certain circumstances turn to other males for sex The book convincinglystablishes that the circumstances that would lead a usually heterosexual man to do this were often drastically different in fifteenth century Florence from what they are today If that s true it means among other things that Venice: A New History even now we still do not have a solidnough understanding of male sexuality to The Moses Riddle (Treasure Hunter explain it or label it The one commonlement driving such men both then and now appears to be differences in power and statusAnother oddity in Florence was that dominant heterosexual partners possessed a collective self consciousness corresponding to the self awareness that modern homosexuals have of being gay but one that is missing among modern straight men who have sex with other men In fact these dominant males in their roles as active sodomites constituted a political force strong Tys Obsession (Whispering Pines Ranch, enough to thwart almost all legal restrictions on same sex activity Judges during that period acted consistently to undermine prosecutions of same sex activity for the activity itself was widely accepted in society The story of the fifteenth century in Florence tells of the Church struggling against powerful headwinds through the wholera to make sodomy socially unacceptable Its attempts to criminalize male sexual relations met with strong and sustained opposition from Florentine societyDespite the statistics the book as it goes along does give readers a surprising picture of sexual activity among men at the time What Rocke cannot show using his preferred method he does show by adding and interpreting other relevant source material The topic becomes an interesting study after all and I think readers will be impressed by its unusual findings Forbidden Friendships is a remarkable study of Renaissance Florence and the homosexuals who lived there Historically there have been many attempts by societies to purge themselves of homosexuals Forbidden Friendships is a tale of Florence s attempt at just that and its a story complete with gangs political persecution sex courts death and broken lives It s also fascinating and scary Oh and a good readNC Rocke s findings concerning homosexuality and the male culture of An Orphan as a Missionary early modern note he prefers the termsarly modern or late medieval and rarely uses Renaissance the title is probably the publisher s choice Florence add another layer of nuiance to what we already know reguarding the power dynamics that xisted between age gender and classes He uses homosexuality to illustrate how Florentine families seemed to use their teenage sons in the same way they used their daughters to build material and political ties with older men in a higher socialeconomic class Along the way Rocke fleshed out the youth subculture that formed in a society that barred them from political power and marriage until they reached a certain age Although I am not a Renaissance historian this work strikes me as a case where a scholar had access to an incredible trove of documents but didn t uite know how to make sense of them and resorted to trying to define them by statistics His statistics don t always seem to add up and he fails to include crucial population numbers that would help to contextualize them The writing itself is xtremely repetitive to the point that one is able to predict which anecdote he is going to pull out of his hat By page 58 he is already using phrases indicating that he is repeating himself These and other markers seem to indicate that the work was born out of a disertation That stated it
is still astill a provocative read Leathercrafting Project Book even with some of his claims seeming to be a stretch Reading this opened myyes to the fact that there are different ways of writing a history book The way I grew up with and developed an acute hunger for Sam and Dave Dig a Hole emphasized the story in history Tales of people who lived in another time are related within the pages allowing me to relive thosexperiences and analyze them through the writing This book was a different kind of history conducting a study through groups of people rather than individuals falling upon charts and numbers to back it up It s very methodical I can t help respecting it for the amount of hard work involved It doesn t interest me as much as a reader but I absorbed a lot of detail about fifteenth century for Florence with a brief jaunt to the sixteenth Bernadino of Siena filled me with horror and revulsion The fact that a willing avatar of hatred was canonized the realization that he s hurt so many people is continuing to hurt countless people today whose parents believe in some version of his intense homophobia makes me shudder I learned what I suspected that the history of homosexuality is interwined with the history of homophobia Awareness of being a group of people attracted to their own gender was raised by those who hated them and wanted them punished A happy side All People Are Famous effect of this bigotry is it helped those being singled out to findach other I learned about the *Court of Night a title which made my imagination take flight and its role of controlling sodomy by cataloging and fining *of Night a title which made my imagination take flight and its role of controlling sodomy by cataloging and fining involved It was amusing and gratifying to learn that attempts to rid Florence of sodomy were so ineffective It was interesting to learn that the prominent homoerotic relationship that was accepted at the time was the same which Handled With Love existed in ancient Athens and Rome that of an older man and a boy It wasducational learning about how sodomy was regarded by the law I could see the beginnings of classifiying people as a specific group which would later be called homosexuals with specific inclinations apart from acts of sodomy It was interesting to learn that sodomy was a lump term which loosely covered all acts which didn t lead to procreation for which heteroseuxal couples. Bachelor implicated with forty adolescents over a seventeen year period and convicted thirteen times; same sex marriages like that of Michele di Bruno and Carlo di Berardo who were involved for several years and swore a binding oath to ach other over an altar; and Bernardo Lorini a former Night Officer himself with a wife and seven children accused of sodomy at the age of sixty five Mortified he sent his son Taddeo to confess for him and plead for a discreet resolution of his case Indeed nearly all Florentine males probably had some kind of same sex xperience as a part of their normal sexual lifeRocke uncovers a culture in which sexual roles were strictly defined by age with boys under Fated And Furr-oscious eighteen the passive participants in sodomy youths in their twenties and older men the active participants and most men at the age of thirty marrying women their days of sexual frivolity with boys largely over Such same sex activities were a normal phase in the transition to adulthood and only a few pursued them much further Rather than precluding heterosexualxperiences they were considered.